Handy Links & Quick Reference

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Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby JustJeff » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:48 pm

This post is intended to be a one-post thread designed to be a quick reference for Packers related information. It is locked to keep it as a one-post thread. This will keep members from having to sift through multiple posts for the links or info. I will edit it to update it, so if you have anything that you feel should be added, please send it along to me by PM.

== PACKERSNEWS.NET HOMEPAGE ==
== http://www.packersnews.net./ ==


== FRAMELESS FORUM LINK ==
== http://packersnews.net/phpBB2/index.php ==


NFL Stats from STATS LLC
http://hosted.stats.com/fb/index.asp

NFL Wage Scale
http://proathletesonly.com/news/front-o ... 2-seasons/


== Packers.com ==
Main Page
http://www.packers.com/

Packers 2008 schedule
http://www.packers.com/gameday/schedule/2008/

Packer roster
http://www.packers.com/team/players/

Packers Coaches
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/

Includes IR, Practice Squad (after final roster is set) and Coaches


Historical Depth Chart & Rosters (1999 as a good starting point)
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/stat/99packrost.asp

== JSOnline ==
Packers 2008 schedule
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=734531

Packer roster
Includes IR, Practice Squad (after final roster is set) and Coaches
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=711712

Depth Chart (currently shows 2007)
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=604074

JSOnline Blog
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/default.aspx

== NFL Stats ==
ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics
Sports Illustrated http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/stats/


== Packers Stats ==
ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=gnb
Sports Illustrated http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... index.html

== The Packers’ Team of Scouts ==
Lee Gissendaner (Northeast)
Brian Gutekunst (Southeast)
Shaun Herock (Midwest)
Alonzo Highsmith (Southwest)
Lenny McGill (Central Plains)
Sam Seale (West Coast)
Jon-Eric Sullivan (Mid-South)

Packers pages…

at ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb

at Sports Illustrated
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... s/packers/

at FoxSports
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team?statsId=9

at The Sporting News
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/packers/

at NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/teams/greenbaypacker ... le?team=GB

at Scout.com (PackerReport)
http://gnb.scout.com/

at CBS Sportsline
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/GB

at USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... s/home.htm

Salary Cap
http://overthecap.com/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/

Original Trade Value Chart
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/featur ... chart.html

Newer Version of the Trade Value Chart
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/ ... ade-chart/

NFL TV Distribution Maps
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/index.html

If you have information or a link that should be added to this list, please feel free to send it to me by PM.
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Postby JustJeff » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:48 pm

Rather than use a link for this information, I opted for quotes.

This outstanding information was developed by our Resident Stat Man Extraordinaire mnkcarp. The second post has a statistical breakdown of draft results by quarter-rounds - each decimal sector represents eight picks in that quarter of the round; ie. 1.4 = the last eight picks of the first round.

mnkcarp wrote:
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:38 pm

Here's what I got - I'll have to look into the math on trade values to see how this would pan out odds-wise:

I'll give the round and the percentage of players in the data set (it wasn't complete because I didn't have later rounds in every draft, so percentages are of the data that I did have) who made the ProBowl:

First Round - 38%
Second Round - 19.8%
Third Round - 12.1%
Fourth Round - 3.6%
Fifth Round - 4.5%
Sixth Round - 6% (!)
Seventh Round - 3%

Just without looking at trade values, it's pretty apparent that trading down in the first few rounds results in a dramatic dropoff in talent level (if ProBowl berths are taken as a good measure of talent). I'll have to see if the higher quantity makes it worthwhile. Of course this doesn't provide much detail about trading down within rounds or trading down five spots to pick up an extra fourth rounder, etc.

Interesting that the sixth round is high by comparison but the sample size was pretty low - there were twenty years of drafts in the first round data, and only six year of data in the sixth round data.

Just as a primer though, the odds of a ProBowler in round 1 are 38%. If you traded that for a second and a third, the odds of at least one of those players being a ProBowler would be 29.5% (take the odds of it NOT happening for each times eachother to find the odds of it not happening at all, then subtract from 1).

Edit: More fun with numbers: The odds of a ProBowler out of three 5th round picks would be 12.9%, and of a ProBowler with two second round picks is 35.7%.

Edit #2: The top six picks are exceptionally high in trade value and for a reason - 60.8% of these picks over that 20 year stretch made the ProBowl.




mnkcarp wrote:
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Okay, here's the quarter-round breakdown - I used 1970-1999 and only did the top 3 rounds - there were 30 seasons for the first round, 20 seasons for the second round, and 16 seasons for the third round. As before, the number represents the percentage of players in each group that made the ProBowl:

1.1 = 55.1%
1.2 = 38.8%
1.3 = 28.3%
1.4 = 25.7%
2.1 = 23.8%
2.2 = 26.6%
2.3 = 11.8%
2.4 = 12.9%
3.1 = 7.8%
3.2 = 12.5%
3.3 = 12.8%
3.4 = 14.2%

Past performance may not be indicative of future trends!

Anyways, some oddities in there like the top of the third bing abnormally low and the bottom of the third being higher than the second half of the second round and the rest of the third, but that's what the numbers are saying!

Fun with math: It would NOT be a good idea to trade out of the top quarter of the first round, even for two first round picks (say a 1.2 and a 1.4) as you would reduce your odds doing that, but it would be a good idea to trade down from the second quarter of the first round if you slide into the third quarter of the round and gain a pick in the top half of the second round.
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Postby JustJeff » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:50 pm

I thought these were interesting models for measuring sleeper draft picks and copied it here.

jb wrote:I've always enjoyed applying Pat Kirwan's favorite metrics to players at the combine.

His first one is to compare the 40 time to the 20 yard shuttle as a measure of quickness. He pays special attention to anyone whose shuttle time is more than half a second faster than his 40 time.

His second one, known as the "Kirwan Explosiveness Index" (or KEI) is to add together standing long jump, vertical jump, and bench reps for a measure of overall athleticism. He pays special attention to anyone whose total exceeds 70.

No point, really. But I've always liked Kirwin's comparisons and have seen them identify some good sleepers.
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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby ESKYMOPACK » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:07 pm

Here's another good one submitted by Paco that has all the teams salary cap and future salary cap.


http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Packers
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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby vintagefan » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:31 pm

Good Afternoon, JustJeff,
I just upgraded to the newest version of the forum, and have a question or two.

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Previous to the avatar issue, I sent out a post requesting how to return to the edited original post from the "DRAFT" so it can be sent. Come to think of it, I hope I haven't precipitated an avalanche of responses. I just got back online from two-plus weeks without a computer after my old one said, "I've had it!", and it refused to 'boot', sort of like that "Old Grandfather Clock" that just up and quit in the song! As a result I'm still acknowledging birthday wishes from my Facebook 'friends'.

Hopefully you'll set me straight on these 'hang-ups'.

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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby JustJeff » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:30 pm

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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby raptorman » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:32 pm

one to add, don't think it saw it there.

http://nflpickwatch.com/
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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby raptorman » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:19 am

Another fun page, shows current playoff picture. Even in the early part of the year.

http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture
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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby Pckfn23 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:07 pm

== PACKERSNEWS.NET HOMEPAGE ==
== http://www.packersnews.net./ ==


== OLD FORUM LINK ==
== http://packersnews.net/phpBB2/index.php ==


== Packers.com ==
Main Page:
http://www.packers.com/

Packers 2014 schedule:
http://www.packers.com/gameday/schedule/2014/

Packer roster including IR and PS:
http://www.packers.com/team/players/

Packers Coaches:
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/

Historical Packer Rosters and Stats:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/

JSOnline Packer Page & Blog:
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/

== NFL Stats ==
ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

NFL Stats from SI:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/stats/

NFL Stats from STATS LLC:
http://hosted.stats.com/fb/index.asp

NFL Stats from Sporting Charts (Proprietary Stats Used):
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/

NFL Stats and History from Pro Football Reference (Proprietary Stats Used):
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/

NFL Stats from Pro Football Focus (Proprietary Stats Used):
https://www.profootballfocus.com/

NFL Stats from Football Outsiders (Proprietary Stats Used):
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/

NFL Stats from Advanced Football Analytics (Proprietary Stats Used):
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/

NFL Stats from Team Rankings (Proprietary Stats Used):
http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stats/

==Packer Pages==
at ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb
at Sports Illustrated
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... s/packers/
at FoxSports
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team?statsId=9
at The Sporting News
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/packers/
at NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/teams/greenbaypacker ... le?team=GB
at Scout.com (PackerReport)
http://gnb.scout.com/
at CBS Sportsline
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/GB
at USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... s/home.htm

Original Trade Value Chart
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/featur ... chart.html

Newer Version of the Trade Value Chart
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/ ... ade-chart/

NFL TV Distribution Maps
http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/index.html

Team and Player Salaries by Spotrac
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/

Team and Player Salaries by Over the Cap
http://overthecap.com/
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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

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Re: Handy Links & Quick Reference

Postby Pckfn23 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:16 pm

Interesting graphics that break down what makes a Super Bowl team:
http://www.nfl.com/superbowlchamps
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