The Covert Origins Of ISIS

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:21 pm

Here's another article that I'd like to hear your opinion on, Army, if you can find the time. Doesn't this make more sense than the ridiculously convoluted "official story" coming out of Washington?

This article claims that the US could easily cut off ISIS supply lines and that ISIS would then be overwhelmed in a month or so by the Syrian and Iraqi Armies, under the age old maxim that "The military marches on its stomach," and that cutting off ISIS supply lines would tip the scales in short order.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/How_the_ ... 8/Y/M.html
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:17 pm

Here's another good article that was linked to in the previous one. Look at the amount of detail you get in these reports. Then look at the amount of detail that the western media gives you in their reports. Details are your enemy when you are lying, because they can betray the inconsistencies of your contrived, false narrative.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/06/26/us-to ... -of-syria/

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:26 pm

Uh oh. Russia is reportedly joining the fray on the side of the Syrian Government with thousands of military personnel. This could get interesting. The US and Russia are on opposing sides here. This would be a MAJOR game changer, if true. Will the US now escalate on behalf of ISIS, er, I mean, "the moderate Syrian rebels"?

This is from the website of Israel's largest newspaper -
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 68,00.html
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:37 pm

General Petraeus now advocating that the US use al Qaeda to fight ISIS?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -isis.html
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:06 am

get louder at lambeau wrote:Uh oh. Russia is reportedly joining the fray on the side of the Syrian Government with thousands of military personnel. This could get interesting. The US and Russia are on opposing sides here. This would be a MAJOR game changer, if true. Will the US now escalate on behalf of ISIS, er, I mean, "the moderate Syrian rebels"?

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 68,00.html


Confirmed by the White House.

"We are aware of reports that Russia may have deployed military personnel and aircraft to Syria, and we are monitoring those reports quite closely," said (Whitehouse) spokesman Josh Earnest. "Any military support to the Assad regime for any purpose, whether it's in the form of military personnel, aircraft supplies, weapons, or funding, is both destabilising and counterproductive."


So yeah, the Whitehouse is saying that supporting an established, secular government in their fight against ISIS terrorists is "destabilizing and counterproductive". They actually said that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... um=twitter
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:11 pm

Another take, saying that, since the reports are coming out of al Nusra (al Qaeda) and the White House, neither of which have a reputation for truth, the supposed increased Russian intervention may all be BS. Hard to know what to believe. It is certainly worth noting that the USG lies constantly to achieve their goals. From Iraq's WMDs and links to 9/11, to Benghazi, to the Ukraine, they are known serial liars with a hidden geopolitical agenda.

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:12 pm

This about sums it up -
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:52 pm

Colin Powell's Chief of Staff Colonel Larry Wilkerson on Syria -

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:14 pm

Internal dissent in the USG based on all the lies, manipulation, and propaganda with regard to ISIS and Syria. A former Deputy Director of the CIA, Michael Morell, speaking out publicly, on mainstream media even, calling for heads to roll. People at Centcom being urged to retire after complaining about it, some quitting because of the "Stalinist" work environment.

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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby Willink » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:54 pm

This whole Syria campaign is an utter disaster and a complete foreign policy fail. Assad isn't losing, the rebels are just as bad as the government, ISIS swept in. lol at John Kerry, Russia sending weapons to Syria government is "destabilizing" but the US and Turkey giving TOW missiles to fundamentalist Islamist rebels to blow up secular govt troops is "democracy in action".
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:16 pm

Here is about the most comprehensive and intelligent take I have found on this subject.



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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:56 pm

Away from western media biases and living in the countries affected by ISIS, 85% of Iraqis and 81% of Syrians who responded to this poll think ISIS is a "foreign/American made group." -

http://www.opinion.co.uk/article.php?s= ... ic-opinion
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Re: The Covert Origins Of ISIS

Postby get louder at lambeau » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Looks like Russia might have forced a change in US policy toward Syria. God, I hope so. No matter what you believe, I don't think ANYONE can make a solid case that our current policy has been successful against ISIS so far. Personally, i think the USG is most likely just plain lying about their actual intentions.

Read this, if you are really concerned about the threat of ISIS, as our Government claims they are. If you find a good article that has a different viewpoint, please, bring it. I'm just trying to learn the truth, and the Obama Admin. is FAR from forthcoming with it. It is not paranoid to doubt the Government when they are known liars, with an agenda, whose narrative doesn't seem to fit reality.

Here's the article -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-1 ... ghter-jets
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