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Re: Ferguson

Postby Lord Ben » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:46 pm

Waldo wrote:(the idea that she actually did anything illegal is an utter pipe dream that only conspiracy theorists can possibly believe),


Are the pipe dreams of conspiracy theorists frequently the subject of FBI investigations? You can talk all you want but the FBI doesn't start an investigation of the Democrat frontrunner for President unless there is some minimum level of proof.

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Re: Ferguson

Postby Lord Ben » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:51 am

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Re: Ferguson

Postby flapackfan » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:45 am

Did you see at their summer convention the Dems endorsed the Black Lives Matter organization? The same crowd who held a rally in Minneapolis on Saturday chanting, "Pigs in a Blanket, fry'em like bacon". I am sure there will be some sound academic reasoning coming that I am not smart enough to understand. What a joke!!!
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Re: Ferguson

Postby Lord Ben » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:04 am

flapackfan wrote:Did you see at their summer convention the Dems endorsed the Black Lives Matter organization? The same crowd who held a rally in Minneapolis on Saturday chanting, "Pigs in a Blanket, fry'em like bacon". I am sure there will be some sound academic reasoning coming that I am not smart enough to understand. What a joke!!!


Because they needed to stoke up racial anger to win elections and now they're kind of stuck in it while it gets violent.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:43 pm

There is just no excuse for not having cameras on all police officers and all squad cars, running at all times at this point. It helps everyone.

New today -

Cops get a "suspicious person, possible burglary" call, go into the wrong house, kill their dog, shoot the homeowner, and one cop also shoots another cop. Great work, guys.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/us/georgi ... index.html

Also new today -

Cops shoot and kill white guy who appears to have his hands up, caught on video.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/us/san-an ... index.html
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Re: Ferguson

Postby Pckfn23 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:54 pm

Heard an interesting quote a while back. Sheriffs and Police Chiefs are elected officials, they work to get re-elected, not to seek the truth.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby get louder at lambeau » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Pckfn23 wrote:Heard an interesting quote a while back. Sheriffs and Police Chiefs are elected officials, they work to get re-elected, not to seek the truth.


Our Sheriff here in El Paso County (Colorado Springs) was recently removed (er, he retired, technically) for being a typical politician-style sleazeball. http://gazette.com/investigation-into-f ... le/1556607
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Re: Ferguson

Postby Lord Ben » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:51 pm

get louder at lambeau wrote:There is just no excuse for not having cameras on all police officers and all squad cars, running at all times at this point. It helps everyone.


Yeah, exactly. I heard some information on the radio the other day about the statistical drop in police abuse reports with and without body cameras. Basically with a camera the cop is less likely to abuse his authority and the suspect/criminal is less likely to act up and/or file false charges of abuse.

Win/Win for everyone I think.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby yoop » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:56 pm

get louder at lambeau wrote:
Pckfn23 wrote:Heard an interesting quote a while back. Sheriffs and Police Chiefs are elected officials, they work to get re-elected, not to seek the truth.


Our Sheriff here in El Paso County (Colorado Springs) was recently removed (er, he retired, technically) for being a typical politician-style sleazeball. http://gazette.com/investigation-into-f ... le/1556607


It cost the tax payers 500 K to get rid of a guy who was about to leave office anyway, in about 10 years in office he bought in to 25 % of a business and had enough money to buy a 600K house with another place in Alaska, no fine, nothing but shown the door, and take all your winnings with you upon leaving, Trumps right, these Spanish are ruthless :lol:

I'am sure cases such as this go on all over, officials abusing power seems so common place these days, Mi. is a hands free state, yet you see Cops driving around talking on a cell phone all the time, sets a bad example.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby get louder at lambeau » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:15 am

yoop wrote:officials abusing power seems so common place these days,


That's nothing. You want REAL abuse of power? How about judges selling THOUSANDS of kids into for-profit juvenile prisons in exchange for millions in bribes from the prison corporation? It happened right here in the USA. The judges are now in prison themselves.

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Re: Ferguson

Postby get louder at lambeau » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:42 am

Cop Who Shot And Killed Six People Now Teaches Other Officers When To Use Their Guns -
http://www.mintpressnews.com/cop-who-sh ... ns/209060/
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Re: Ferguson

Postby get louder at lambeau » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:49 pm

Here's another nice one.

This lady, a bank executive, was initially detained for taking her hands off the steering wheel while stopped at a red light. They detained her without charges and impounded her car. When she went to get her BMW back, they locked her up in the psych ward for 8 days and drugged her involuntarily with lithium and sedatives because they didn't believe she was a banker who owned a BMW, and claimed she was delusional. She really is a bank executive and the BMW was/is hers.

She was never charged with any crime. After finally being released, she got a $13,000 bill from the mental hospital to which she was involuntarily committed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kam ... ecbfa3e60d
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Re: Ferguson

Postby APB » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:16 pm

get louder at lambeau wrote:Here's another nice one.

This lady, a bank executive, was initially detained for taking her hands off the steering wheel while stopped at a red light. They detained her without charges and impounded her car. When she went to get her BMW back, they locked her up in the psych ward for 8 days and drugged her involuntarily with lithium and sedatives because they didn't believe she was a banker who owned a BMW, and claimed she was delusional. She really is a bank executive and the BMW was/is hers.

She was never charged with any crime. After finally being released, she got a $13,000 bill from the mental hospital to which she was involuntarily committed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kam ... ecbfa3e60d

If that story is accurate, the cop and supervisors who authorized her detention should be fired and jailed themselves. That story, as reported, is absolutely ridiculous.

We keep hearing how cops are continually being unfairly portrayed in the media and by groups like BLM, but then you see stuff like this and can't help but shake your head. Until the police start policing themselves, this back and forth is never going to end. Clean up your precincts and then worry about the public respect you think you deserve.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby Waldo » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:45 am

Of course there is this too.

http://news.yahoo.com/n-y-police-releas ... --ten.html

The cops are a problem; limiting it to a purely racial thing against black people is very nearsighted. Cops use WAY too much force and default to it way too easily.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... drug-raid/

Lets face it, the kind of people that grow up to be cops need very strong leashes when it comes to the use of force, especially deadly, and they pretty much have no leashes. The cops are a bigger menace to public safety than criminals are.

Who here has been tortured by the police? I have. As a minor. And I'm white.
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Re: Ferguson

Postby Ghost_Lombardi » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:08 am

Lets face it, the kind of people that grow up to be cops need very strong leashes when it comes to the use of force, especially deadly, and they pretty much have no leashes. The cops are a bigger menace to public safety than criminals are.


Dumbest thing I've read today.

Cheri Maples
Mike Koval
Katherine Cherne
Caleb Bedford
Sue Williams

I knew all of these people very well. Worked alongside them. None of them needed a leash. Most were social workers more than they were cops.

But I'm sure you find it easier to engage in hyperbole and blanket statements rather than think before you type.
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